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Author Topic: Derek Vitalio: Process Eliciting to Seduce Girls With Boyfriends  (Read 1432 times)
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« on: June 17, 2006, 07:15:45 PM »

A lot of guys ask me, "What do I say if she tells me she has a
boyfriend?"

The fact is, most attractive women have a boyfriend most of the
time. If men are like spiders trying to catch as many women into
their web as they can, women are like swinging tree-monkeys,
swinging from boyfriend to boyfriend but never letting go of the
first without having a second lined up to grab onto. So you
can't just ignore women with boyfriends or you'll severely limit
your options.

One technique to use is a "boyfriend destroyer". A boyfriend
destroyer is especially effective if her boyfriend is not
meeting her core values and she's looking to leave him anyway
and just needs an extra nudge out.

For instance, last month I met a cute black-haired beauty by the
pool and she was telling me how she had just broken up with her
boyfriend and how he was such a jerk. She went on about him for
ten minutes straight. She was getting more and more worked up
it. Besides getting bored, I didn't want any of this negativity
attached to me.

So I told her, "Just imagine your ex-boyfriend three inches
tall, like this, standing right on the table in front of you.
Now I want you to take your hand and smash him and crumple him
up in your hands-"

She immediately squashed her invisible ex against the table and
crumpled him up before I could finish!

Then I told her, "And THROW him into the pool where he will
disappear! Splash! Gone!"

She threw him in and after that never said one more word about
him - only that I was so "intelligent" and "sweet" and
"incredible" and... well you get the idea.

But some women LIKE their boyfriends and there's little you can
do to neutralize or destroy him in her mind. In that case you
have to take a completely different approach. (The following
conversation is simplified for clarity)

One girl I met at a party casually mentioned her boyfriend in
conversation. I said to her, "You know, I'm really curious about
something... about your boyfriend, what about him first
attracted you?"

She started telling me what it was about her boyfriend that
first attracted her. She said, "Well I wasn't attracted to him
AT FIRST, but it was just the way he... and the way he...
and..." This is important, because she's giving you step-by-step
instructions on EXACTLY how to seduce her!

I then asked her, "When you first fell in love with this person
what exactly did you feel?"

No matter what she says, she'll lightly go into that state of
first falling in love as she accesses it in her mind - with YOU
causing the good feeling in her.

I asked her, "Where did that feeling start?"

She told me in her chest (they'll usually say in their throat or
stomach).

Then I asked her, "From your chest, where did it go it next?"

She told me it went down to her tummy.

I said, "Now let me get this straight... I was actually talking
to a friend of mine last week and with her when she feels she's
attracted to a person she said it starts in her throat, but for
you it starts here in your chest..."

I touched her chest. "And then down to your tummy right," I said
tracing my finger down to her naval.

I've now just elicited HER particular process of becoming
attracted and then LED her through it by tracing the path of
that feeling with my finger (and anchored that incredible
feeling to me finger as I touched her). In effect, I created the
experience of "becoming attracted" for her as I traced the
feeling with my finger along her skin - all with the excuse of,
"Now let me see if I got what you said straight."

I finished up with, "It's kind of weird that way... how you just
become attracted to someone like that... as if it just explodes
inside of you when it hits your tummy... but things like that
can just happen and in my opinion you should never try to fight
something like that."

As a final note, you MUST have some level of rapport when you
pull a move like this. The more rapport you have with her, the
better she'll respond and more powerful the effect will be.

Regards,

Derek Vitalio

Learn the Science of Seduction
http://www.seductionscience.com/jump.php?a=2589
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2008, 01:25:42 AM »

"I have a boyfriend."

"I have a boyfriend" is an often-heard defense mechanism put up by women.  It may be true.  It may not.  Sometimes it is nothing more than her informing you that she isn't interested anymore.  She has already made her decision about you and doesn't need to spend anymore time with you.

You may ask "Well, what if she really is in a committed relationship with a guy?"

She probably was in a relationship when she met this guy she is currently calling her boyfriend.
My point is it doesn't matter.  If you can stir up those ATTRACTION embers in her she won't be talking about boyfriends. 
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Target: "I have a boyfriend."

Mack: "I'm sorry.  I don't know you well enough yet to do a therapy session.  I'm sure things will work out for you two."

Target: (laughing first) "I thought maybe you were trying to pick me up."

Mack: "Really?... Maybe this whole boyfriend routine is YOUR attempt to pick me up."

Target: "I don't pick up men!"

Mack: "I'm not surprised -- you're not real good at this."

Target:  (looks of surprise...maybe some more laughing)

Mack: "You didn't make your bed this morning either."
                        OR...
Mack: "If you'll answer five things for me I'll know a lot more about you.  Actually, I'll know more about you than any of your friends, even this supposed boyfriend.  Maybe then I can help you with this boyfriend problem you’re having."

Target: "I'm not having a problem with my boyfriend."

Mack: "Then why are we talking about him?  ...  "
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You should see these situations as opportunities to have some fun, even if you don't have plans to pick her up.  It's good practice first of all and if she has fun with the interaction I can guarantee at least one of the two following things will occur:

1) She places you in her POTENTIAL folder.
2) She tells her girlfriends about you and how unique and interesting you were.

Capitalizing on either of these situations will depend on how you exit the encounter.   You should make special note that there wasn't even a hint of "nice" in the above interaction.  That's what she was counting on when she threw up the boyfriend block.  A herdsman would have apologized or turned tail and slithered off followed by a condescending smile from her.

When ANY block is thrown up, turn the tables on her.  Tease her!  This will tell her you are not one of the herd.  She may step back and rethink her initial impression.  Even if she doesn't she could be a great source of targets for you.
Mack: "It's good you aren't trying to pick me up -- I can tell you're not my type.  Maybe you have some great looking girlfriends that do NOT have psychological problems involving boyfriends?"

Have fun with these encounters.  Enjoy.
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