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Author Topic: Tyler Durden: Lockup - Buying Temperature - Escalation  (Read 1123 times)
Dunkan
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« on: March 27, 2006, 04:09:30 PM »

Hey guys.. I've been busy as hell, and no time to post. I'm
having an awesome summer.

It's late, and I'm feeling kind of manic (therefore in the
mood to write and write).

I don't have time to post actively anymore, but here's a
pile stuff I've been up to lately. I hope you guys enjoy
it. It should shine some light on my style. I'm not
criticizing other people's styles, who you can learn from
also, since they obviously get the results at the end of
the day. This is MY understanding of game.

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At this point in my game, my focus is on pushing girls into
BUYING TEMPERATURE, recognizing it, and ESCALATING.

In field, I have the terms:
-lockup
-unlocked
-buying temperature levels
-escalation


LOCKUP:

Chick is unresponsive. Ask questions, she says "I don't
know" or "no", or any blowoff answer. She holds tense
shoulders, and if you say "high-5" or try to physically
displace her in any way whatsoever, she says the words "I'm
scared / you're scaring me / etc". This does NOT mean she
is physically afraid. This is like a chick saying "not yet"
when you go to kiss her too early in the night. She's JUST
saying "I'm not at buying temperature yet". A chick who is
locked up cannot even move or give a proper answer for a
million dollars. She is locked up. Causes of lockup can be
that she sees her friend hitting buying temperature for you
too quickly, and she doesn't like it, or that you have
conveyed too much eagerness too early.


UNLOCKED:

She is now OPEN to being gamed. Girls KNOW what you're
doing when you run material. They may not know its
pre-canned, but they know what it means when you tease them
- its SEXUAL COMMUNICATION and they know what's up. If a
chick is locked up, she isn't even OPEN to this sort of
communication. Once unlocked, you can now begin gaming.

Chicks become UNLOCKED when you don't telegraph interest
(check the 25 points checklist), and therefore trust your
intentions. Also, when you CONVEY PERSONALITY, and they
therefore can FILL IN the canvas of your life, they
increase trust.

SIGNS of chick being unlocked - KINO TESTS. Hold out your
palms upwards. If she puts her hands there, squeeze them.
If she squeezes back, she's unlocked for sure. Likewise,
tap her, if she taps back playfully, she's unlocked and
sexually engaged probably.


BUYING TEMPERATURE LEVELS:

-enough for her to sit there while you game her
-enough to show an IOI like a giggle
-enough to show an IOI and kino you
-enough to show alot of IOIs and ask you questions
-enough for you to venue change her
-enough for you to kino HER, and give her IOIs, and she
still likes it (usually after qualification phase, because
she now feels she EARNED your attention, rather than you
just want to fuck her like every other guy on the planet)
-enough for you to get physical with her
-enough for you to fuck her


As EACH Buying Temperature increase, the chick will usually
SHIT TEST you, as a way of TRYING to throw herself OUT OF
STATE. She shit tests by doing things that if you react too
seriously, she'll get upset and therefore be thrown out of
state.

By passing shit tests, Buying Temperature is AMPLIFIED.
This is like when Eddy (whitedragonPUA) posted about his
HBRugby Lay report She kept punching him all night. After
he laid her, he asked her why. She said "I just thought
you'd go away"... She knew she was hitting buying
temperature, and didn't want to succumb to it so she shit
tested by hitting him and hoped that he would back off and
she would come down. Think back to when you tried to kiss a
girl on a date, and she said "NOT YET".

She doesn't mean NO. She ONLY means "I'm not at buying
temperature yet.. Give me more gaming". Likewise, you try
to venue change a girl, and she says "No. But I still want
to talk to you". You keep gaming her, and a few minutes
later you change venues. This was because you tried to
ESCALATE PRIOR TO ATTAINING THE RIGHT LEVEL OF BUYING
TEMPERATURE.

There are many examples of chicks trying to throw
themselves out of state when hitting buying temperature,
but then by passing shit tests it is actually amplified:
Chick feels herself getting horny. HB: "You're a player".
PUA: "Yeah.. so what is it that turns you on so much about
players anyway" (Response works firstly because you didn't
disagree, so she can't get mad for you lying to her and
break her own state, and secondly because you say something
COCKY, which hits her emotionally, and therefore raises
buying temperature)

EG: Chick says "we shouldn't be doing this"... PUA responds
"yeah, we shouldn't be doing this" but KEEPS going.

In both cases, the chick feels her buying temperature
increasing unusually rapidly (because of the PUA skillset),
and tries to stop what's happening.

When Buying Temperature is hit too quickly, it is called
FRYING OUT HER CIRCUITS. This is like when chicks giggle
uncontrollably and run away from you even though they like
you, or when a chick is at a rock concert and starts
screaming and crying when the rockstar comes out. She has
hit buying temperature so fast, her circuits fry out and
she freaks.

"Routine Outcome Dependence" is a phenomena where you're
too HOOKED on seeing chicks increasing buying temperature.
EG: "Calling a chick a powerpuff girl will make her
giggle"... So when a chick isn't giggling, you try to FORCE
it by calling her a Powerpuff girl. EXCEPT, she KNOWS that
not normal to say that to a chick whose all serious, so
knows something is up (this is actually the 26th 'trying
too hard to qualify' thing I guess - routine outcome
dependence).

The SAME goes for when she's all serious, and you try TOO
HARD to seem happy and fun. She KNOWS that you're doing it
to get with her, and it doesn't make sense. That does NOT
mean state match. It just means MODERATE and don't appear
PHONEY. Most Buying Temperature tools are to be used to AMP
a state that you see building.

She starts giggling a BIT, and you call her a powerpuff
girl, and now she giggles a LOT. If she's not giggling AT
ALL, then maybe it was the wrong time. She DETECTS that you
were consciously TRYING to increase her buying temperature,
and blows you off. Field experience is KING, nobody is
above it. Field experience helps us to develop an INTUITION
of WHERE and WHEN to use the particular material.

TO INCREASE BUYING TEMPERATURE:

(First, remember that there are PRECONDITIONS to a girl
even being OPEN to you start to affect her this way. For a
set of HB10s, they often may not even ALLOW themselves to
be affected by your game, unless you have social proof or
status somehow.. Likewise, even for a lesser HB7, if you
are smelly and fat and gross, she won't be open to it, even
if what you're doing is proper tight game)

--Pump them through emotions rapidly.. (I personally use a
detailed system of building routines that increase buying
temperature.. basically, routines hit emotions through
languaging or demonstration.. not hard.. this way I can
build routines on the fly and not rely on canned material -
infinite routines via proper understanding or structure and
basic creativity) ---

THINK MAKEUP SEX: How good is makeup sex compared to normal
sex? WHY? Because you've been pumped through so many
emotions. This is what NORMAL sex is like for chicks -
hence they like badboys, they like skydiving and sex in
exciting places, they like makeup sex, etc etc..

Think Swingdancing routine, think Rollerblading routine,
think puppydog routines, think jerk routines, think magic,
think funny kino shit like hitting them and spinning them,
think cocky stuff. It runs them through various emotions
FAST. Story telling must be run in a way that is melodic,
and talks fast enough to keep them captivated, but also
runs them through emotions at the right progression without
talking fast like you're trying too hard.

--Talking from the diaphragm in a fun, non-threatening way.
NOT GOING SEXUAL right away in front of her friends (this
is not for picking up lone girls, I'm talking public
gatherings where I do my pickup.. this is also seduction in
the WRONG VENUE, save it for ISOLATION.. don't be tacky and
try to seduce her FULLY in PUBLIC). Remember, talking from
the CHEST and not the THROAT is key here. You must
OVERPOWER her reality with your tonality. This way of
talking CUTS THROUGH the noise of the venue, without
appearing like you're yelling. Look at how your dad talked
to you when he was angry. That is BAD and causes lockup and
no buying temperature increase. Look at guys who have
FLUCTUATING and FUN tonality. But who are also ALPHA, by
virtue of their PROJECTION (diaphragm). Just TALKING
without asking them boring questions will unlock and
increase buying temperature.

-C&F WORKS because you hit a sharp emotion "Oh that cocky
guy, how could he say that!", but because its FUNNY at the
same time as cocky, she doesn't get upset. KEY: Making them
LAUGH disarms you increasing buying temperature, because
the laughter disarms any discomfort.

-PUSH/PULL WORKS because as buying temperature increases,
chicks have NATURAL tendency to throw themselves out of
state. By gaming them, but pushing them AWAY, they have
PERMISSION to ALLOW themselves to go deeper and deeper into
state, because they don't worry that you'll exploit that
and fuck them "after all, he did say hands off the
merchandise.. I can feel this way, and he still won't fuck
me".. This is why chicks LOVE gay guys. Because they feel
they won't fuck them even if they hit buying temperature.
So they can walk around all day at high buying temperature,
and not worry that there will be consequences.

FALSE DISQUALIFIERS AND FALSE TIME CONSTRAINTS WORK because
the chick says "oh well he can't fuck me.. I can feel free
to feel this".. Or "well he's about to leave, so I can feel
free to feel this way"

-25 POINTS OF NOT TELEGRAPHING INTEREST WORK because chicks
don't worry that you'll fuck them while their buying
temperature increases, since you're practically the first
guy not to kino them and lean into them and show interest
in them, even when they're hot and talking to you. Hence,
they react "are you gay", because they can't GRASP that
you're not returning their IOIs. They don't say "are you
gay" to a 64 year old gay man. They say it to an attractive
guy who is turning them on, but not telegraphing interest
like EVERY other guy would when she's touching them and all
that ("hands off the merchandise"), so they think "WTF,
this guy's gay", and ask it all obnoxiously (obnoxious,
because its none of their business, and they'd never ask
that of a gay guy they're not attracted to).


SUBTLETY: Not telegraphing interest unlocks and ALLOWS
buying temperature to increase (because if you convey
interest, she won't let herself since she knows you'll fuck
her), but it doesn't necessarily increase buying
temperature in and of itself. It simply grants PERMISSION
to the chick to allow herself to indulge in going into
state. As soon as you convey interest (eg: breach one of
the 25 points), she may think "shit I can't feel like
this", and cuts if off in a fit of anti-slut defense or
whatever. SO: Buying temperature is increased by hitting
many emotions rapidly, while being unlocked is more from
not telegraphing interest (25 points). They are discreet,
but run parallel. ONE EXCEPTION: By not telegraphing
interest, that MAY sometimes increase buying temperature in
and of itself, because the chick may ASSUME that its
IMPLICIT social proof (ie: she's not good enough for you,
because you lay hotter chicks).

ESCALATION:

At each WAYPOINT, we must ESCALATE.

Buying temperature increases, they want COMFORT. They have
COMFORT, they want SEXUAL ("phase shift", etc).

When they hit buying temperature, they say "what's your
name", etc, because they want to KNOW the guy who is
getting them all into state.

COMFORT BUILDERS (we no longer use RAPPORT, because rapport
is one of MANY comfort builders.. Comfort building is the
better term IMO, because we're trying to build COMFORT into
her being at high buying temperature, rather than trying to
get rapport, which connection, trust, commonality,
divulging vulnerability, conveying personality and reverse
EV, etc etc ALL serve to build comfort.. So RAPPORT is only
ONE PART of comfort building):

-It takes roughly 4-7 hours to lay a chick from start to
finish (credit Mystery for figuring this out - awesomely
important, though I didn't realize the importance at the
time). Comfort building means BABYSITTING for those hours,
while she slowly heats up to be ready for sex - it takes
that many hours for her to be ready, unless she's a party
chick.

-talking about stuff that DOES NOT pump them through too
many sharp emotions rapidly (ie: DROP C&F, drop the crazy
exciting shit), but still keeps them into the convo

-talk should convey who you are, so she can fill in the
empty canvas and see the PICTURE of 'who is this guy I'm so
attracted to' Attraction is THERE - she's at that buying
temperature. Comfort building means building COMFORT into
the state she's in, so she doesn't put a stop to it.

-include talk about how its NATURAL to feel this way for
the right person.. Examples: Evolution Phase shift routine
(she feels its EVOLUTIONARY that she feels like this, and
backwards rationalizes), or the "I wasn't born with a book
on what to do.. I just do what feels comfortable" (chicks
KNOW the feeling that certain guys make them comfortable,
and ASSUME that they feel this way for YOU"

-SIMULATING THAT *YOU* ARE HITTING BUYING TEMPERATURE:
"What's your sign? OH MY GOD I LOVE LIBRAS.. Oh god, I
can't talk to you.. you're trouble" (turn away, just like
girls whose circuits fry out.. you're TRICKING them to
think you're doing what THEY do, since chicks do this shit
all the time because they hit buying temperature for
retarded arbitrary shit like astrological signs and
colognes and shit like that)

FAKING LOCKUP AS PUNISHMENT in 'Punishment/Reward': If
you're in comfort building, FAKE the symptoms of lockup.
She'll understand what it means when she's like "TD, are
you OK?" and I say "I dunno" just like a chick would when
she's locked up. She'll grab you and start talking to try
to unlock you. For example: HB "I like oranges" PUA "What?
Apples. Apples are gross.." (pretends to lock himself up)
HB "no no no, I said oranges! Oranges!" PUA "oh shit.. I
love oranges.." (pretends to unlock) Congrats, now she's
chasing you.

FEAR OF LOSS TO MAINTAIN STATE WITHOUT INTENSE EMOTIONAL
UPS AND DOWNS: Some guys complain that in rapport phase
(now called "comfort building phase") the girls come out of
state. By using punishment reward bit, she'll be chasing
you. But ALSO, building in FEAR OF LOSS is effective. Think
back to when a girl who you didn't like liked you. Maybe
back in high school or some shit. But then you realized
that she never liked you. You LOSE the validation you got.
You start to obsess. You start to like her. Likewise, you
have a state relationship. But she starts to get into
another guy. OH SHIT, you're obsessing over her again. Or
you make HER jealous, and now she's back into you (even
when it was stale). This is the power of FEAR OF LOSS. Fear
of loss REMINDS us of how attracted we are.

In comfort building, encorporate fear of loss and
punishment/reward, so that you don't suffer the phenomena
of losing the chick at rapport phase (aka comfort building
phase) because the interaction has lost its charge.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2006, 04:10:18 PM »

KEYS:

If you FAIL to ESCALATE, the pickup is often OVER.

Example:

1) If you don't stop busting on her, she looses interest
after a while, because you're being too emotionally intense
for her. She needs COMFORT built into the high buying
temperature you're generating. This is why you get guys who
are good at opening at attracting, but have difficulty
closing unless its a party-chick.

2) If you don't phase shift out of comfort, she gets bored
or something (maybe you're beta or not interested)

3) Final escalation - ARGHHHH!! (I got burnt on this FIVE
times, until I RECOGNIZED it) If you keep them SEXUAL but
don't escalate to FUCK them, its too intense for too long,
and they say "I'm tired" or "I feel sick". This is
guaranteed. What happens is they get actually QUEASY from
you keeping them sexual without fucking them for TOO LONG.
If anyone else has had this happen, report back. Have you
guys seen this before? Its JUST LIKE the "what's your name"
IOI. It's something that CONSISTENTLY HAPPENS under
specific circumstances.

QUALIFYING AS A WAY OF 'TRUMPING' SOIs:
When you qualify the chick to you, you've now conveyed to
her that you're interested in her for reasons BEYOND her
being a nice peice of ass.

So BEFORE, the reason girls in public gatherings would
snuff you off when you showed interest was because she
thought "he only wants to fuck me".

By making her chase, and then showing her WHY you've found
yourself interested in her, she now thinks "well he showed
me a signal of interest, but I EARNED it, so its because
I'm a Libra and because he felt comfortable talking to me
and because I told him I got an A+ in my psych100 class"
(If you're interested to read more on this, you can read
"pickup of HB10GF" post of mine in my archive, around late
last spring, to review how I qualify chicks to me, to
convince them they earned it)

If I take a girl's phone#, I find I MUST qualify her prior
to taking it. This is because the MERE ACT of phoning her
can be a signal of interest. But if I've run my
qualification phase, then its NO PROBLEM that I'm
telegraphing some interest by phoning, since its WARRANTED.

She's gone into buying temperature, she's chased you, she's
EARNED your attention. So now its *OK* that you're showing
interest at this point. She'll be fine with it - of course.
If you plan to give an SOI in your game, its at THIS POINT
that it is less likely to blow you out.


LOGISTICS:

Working out logistics is important.

1) Chicks CONSTANTLY look at eachother while they're being
pushed into buying temperature. Watch while you sarge, as
they CONSTANTLY keep looking at one another to see what
state they're in. If they give the "girl code" look that
one is not in state, they ALL leave. Chicks NEED to feel
that ALL their friends are feeling it TOO, so they don't
get looked down on by their friends. This is why social
proof is SO important in public gatherings. If ONE chick is
not at the SAME buying temperature, then she SEES that her
friend will fuck you if she leaves her alone, and she drags
her away. You must NOT put a girl TOO FAR into buying
temperature in front of her friends, unless you keep them
together.

BTW: One reason chicks like socially proofed guys is that
they SEE that many other chicks have gone into buying
temperature, so its "OK" to allow themselves to do so.
Also, if you've read my routine where I get my wingman in
on 2sets where his chick isn't liking him, I say "your
friend is ignoring my friend.. I don't want him to be
lonely.. I'm gonna go", and then YOUR chick will start
saying to her locked up friend "no, he's cool.. I like him
he's cool.. blah blah", and all of a sudden the previously
locked up friend now OPENS UP to your wingman, and now BOTH
chicks will fuck you.

2) 2sets are EASY to fclose when you have a competent wing.
Why? Because they BOTH go into buying temperature, and
since NEITHER will object, it just happens.

3) The smart PUA does as LITTLE as possible to hit the next
buying temperature. This way he doesn't exhaust his
material, and he doesn't risk the girl FRYING OUT HER
CIRCUITS (rock concert style), or possibly her detecting
what you're doing and cutting it off. Also, its better,
because if she is ONLY at "venue change" buying
temperature, then her friends will SENSE this and be less
likely to object to you taking her away from them. AFTER
you have her away from her friends, you can now pump her up
all the way to full buying temperature, and now you've
STRATEGICALLY played your game, so that you don't get
cockblocked.
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